A few suggestions for successful sales.

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26 Feb 2010 11:24 - 28 Mar 2010 11:35 #1 by JohnH (John)
As a long-term Forum purchaser of items offered for sale here I thought it worth making one or two suggestions to would-be sellers and buyers.
Firstly read the previously posted guidelines.

1] Always include the whereabouts of where the item(s) is/are located, this will make it easier for would-be buyers to decide whether it's convenient to them. This is probably the most important of the suggestions, it isn't fair to offer items for sale without telling would-be buyers where they (the items) are situated.
2] In the words of the old saying: - "A picture is worth a thousand words" (I nicked that phrase from ebay) so, if at all possible try to illustrate whatever you're selling with a picture of the thing actually advertised (but if not possible and a picture to illustrate is available online, use that - but make it very clear the picture isn't the actual thing you're advertising).
3] I have observed that ads asking for offers very rarely get serious offers - if you know how much you're looking for for something it might be better for all concerned if you ask for that amount in the first place...you'll inevitably get someone who doesn't want to pay the asking price make a lower offer anyway so you might want to bear this in mind also.
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4] when the item is sold - please post on the Forum that it has gone - or, in the case of multiple items being offered, please amend your ad to delete items sold.

For buyers:

1] I find it helps others interested if you mention on the Forum that you have either phoned the seller (if he has offered a contact number) or sent a Personal Message...
2] If you don't want to pay the asking price please make a serious offer, not a derisory one.

I can't think offhand of any more suggestions, but will add any others as and when they appear.

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28 Mar 2010 12:01 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Hi fellow Forumers.

I read this helpful Post a while back and it really should be re read every time you consider selling Fishy related stuff on the Forum.

It will make your sales and purchases quicker in the long run, getting to the nitty gritty so to speak and saving you lots of time and hassle.


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28 Mar 2010 12:09 #3 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
and just to add to this, if your going to try and sell something and not going to answer your pms its not going to win you any friends....at least have the decency to reply to people or post on the original thread that something has been sold.. happened me recently and i'm still waiting to hear back from the "seller"

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28 Mar 2010 12:14 #4 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
@ Sheag,

Agreed, thats a head melt. Nothing worse than boxing off a load of stuff only to never hear from the other party. Time and money down the tube.

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28 Mar 2010 15:18 #5 by derek (Derek Doyle)
@shea and jay
absolutely agree with comments. and it is the reason why i and others rarely post anything for sale on the forum. although most people i dealt or deal with have been grand, the odd one that dos'nt return pms can leave a sour taste.

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29 Mar 2010 02:18 #6 by JohnH (John)
It just occurred to me that perhaps some new members don't actually know when they have PMs.

For anyone not familiar with this (Underneath the ITFS Banner) - Top left it says "Private Messages" and beside that there is a little icon picturing an envelope. If that's 'flashing' it means you have a PM - underneath it tells you how many PMs (or none) you have awaiting you.

To help even further an email is sent to your email address notifying you that you have a PM and the content of that message appears. However, I must stress that if you reply to that email the reply does not go to the sender of the PM - you can only reply to a PM (even though you will have read it from your inbox) by logging into the Forum and sending your response using the 'PM' facility there.

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16 Apr 2010 16:35 #7 by JohnH (John)
Right,
Since so many 'For Sale' postings are still being posted without location information (which is a real 'bummer' for potential purchasers - they really do need this information) we are planning to omit any in which the seller has forgotten to add this.

To a lesser degree this would also be helpful to members posting 'Wanted' ads too so similar details are now requested as well.

The advertisements will be immediately reinstated upon the relevant information being provided.

This will apply for any future posting, but if you have anything currently 'on offer' or being 'requested' please amend them accordingly.

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16 Apr 2010 18:49 - 16 Apr 2010 18:49 #8 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Thanks JohnH for a sound and proper rule regarding location information. This has been a problem for a long time. An information as basic as location is often omitted. Oh i'm based in D4. :cheer:

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16 Apr 2010 19:43 #9 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Maybe I'm just being a bit pedantic,feel free to abuse me if I am,but all these posts that state "pm sent" rile me a hell of a lot more than lack of location,that I can ask,but constantly clicking on new posts just to see "pm sent" gets me going!A person is notified automatically when they receive a pm,is it neccessary?

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16 Apr 2010 19:55 #10 by Tetra (Tetra)
I have done this myself "pm sent" but only so the seller knows that you were first to respond to the ad as there maybe alot of interest from other members for the item/fish.Does your PM inbox sort messages by date and time not sure myself?

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16 Apr 2010 20:00 #11 by Acara (Dave Walters)
I presume so.
Dont get me started on "pm replied to":laugh:

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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16 Apr 2010 20:02 - 16 Apr 2010 20:03 #12 by Tetra (Tetra)
Ah its me not being to tech savvy so.....

Oh "Post Replied " :laugh: :laugh:
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16 Apr 2010 20:04 #13 by mickdeja (mick whelan)
good call John, PM thing im kinda on the side of Acara on this one just a bit of a waste to keep puttin PM sent on the thread as when u send the PM u will then write in that u sent the PM but the time will be added to the PM and the first one showin will be always the first person that wrote the first PM sent within the thread. wooooooo me head is fried after writin that, ye get me?:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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20 Apr 2010 18:32 - 20 Apr 2010 18:32 #14 by mickdeja (mick whelan)
Any chance the location could show up on the profile area within the chat forum, maybe under the PM ONLINE PROFILE bit ? JOHN H. please...........would save u havin to tell folk to add their location...

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20 Apr 2010 20:07 #15 by JohnH (John)
mickdeja wrote:

Any chance the location could show up on the profile area within the chat forum, maybe under the PM ONLINE PROFILE bit ? JOHN H. please...........would save u havin to tell folk to add their location...


I'll look, but I don't think it's viable.
But how much easier would it be if everyone offering items for sale just added their location as a matter of course?

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20 Apr 2010 20:58 #16 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
Maybe there could be a "RULES: PLEASE READ FIRST TO AVOID DELETION" post in the Spotlight section? It would basically be the 'Rules' post, but include that 'for sale' posts must include location, maybe also asking price too, or will be automatically deleted. It will put more work on the mods initially, and it will still happen for a while, but eventually things might improve.

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20 Apr 2010 21:11 - 20 Apr 2010 21:21 #17 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Acara wrote:

Maybe I'm just being a bit pedantic,feel free to abuse me if I am,but all these posts that state "pm sent" rile me a hell of a lot more than lack of location,that I can ask,but constantly clicking on new posts just to see "pm sent" gets me going!A person is notified automatically when they receive a pm,is it neccessary?


Tetra_Tetra wrote:

I have done this myself "pm sent" but only so the seller knows that you were first to respond to the ad as there maybe alot of interest from other members for the item/fish.Does your PM inbox sort messages by date and time not sure myself?


I agree with Acara that opening a thread to read "PM Sent" is a pain, but I agree with Tetra Tetra too. I have been guilty of using "PM Sent" to let others see you have expressed an interest already. I have also sent the PM without posting that in the thread and got grief (considerable grief actually) where I was first to reply within a couple of minutes of the original post, but two others that had posted "PM Sent" within an hour were very pee'd off to find I had bought the item when they heard from the seller the item was no longer available.

So a suggestion that PM Sent should not be used in all cases and then it is the same for everyone and any "PM Sent" posts get automatically deleted, well automatic in as far as Johnh just deletes them manually :-)

There is another use for "PM Sent" on the forum which usually refers to someone complaining or seeing something special without being specific and another poster asks for details, it is logical the for the original poster to say "PM sent" as readers know the query was answered offline - I think that is fair enough.


Daragh

PS. Bumping "For Sale" threads, especially within a day or two of the last posting should also be deleted in IMHO, "H" standing for humble in this case :-)
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20 Apr 2010 21:14 #18 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
Yeah, there is really no need to bump a post that is already on the first page. If you are that desperate, lower the asking price - if, of course you have an asking price.

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21 Apr 2010 12:50 #19 by JohnH (John)
Some very pertinent points here, firstly I have already posted that future 'unlocated' offers will be deleted - but so far we are trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt by prompting them once.

I personally don't think banning the use of 'PM sent' replies (having done it at least myself) would be necessary for the reasons Daragh gives - but if enough members send me a PM to the contrary I will delete them as soon as they are noticed.

The 'Bumping' of offers is another matter entirely, unless - as mentioned - something changes such as price or description this will also be deleted.

Another bone of contention is the same person using separate posts for individual items. If one person is selling several items they should be listed together in one post, not three or four individual ones...items sold from the list can either be deleted or marked 'SOLD'.

This will do for the time being.

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