Breeding pair of angel fish

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11 Sep 2017 17:31 #31 by robert
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Well the usual happened checked the on arriving home on sunday and eggs gone

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11 Sep 2017 19:39 #32 by fishmad1234

Well the usual happened checked the on arriving home on sunday and eggs gone



At the end of the day Robert they are spawning it really is only a matter of time before it will click for them.

My angels spawned last night then eggs all gone this morning they are in the community tank so I wouldn't expect the eggs to ever materialise.

The one thing you have to understand is that it's out of your control and it could take 20 more times of laying eggs for them to let them hatch.


Giving them the right conditions is all you can do the rest is up to them.


Just stay patient and it will eventually click.


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11 Sep 2017 21:29 #33 by robert
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They are a beautiful pair of angels , well we think they are a pair , so guess we give them time

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12 Sep 2017 07:48 #34 by Bill
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I don't know where you keep them, Robert, but one thing to think about is privacy. If the tank is in a busy part of the house with people appearing and disappearing then that can be enough to put them off. Many years ago I knew a guy, he was actually my fish-keeping Guru in the 60s and 70s. He fashioned a little curtain that he slid across part of the tank, not the whole tank, and his shy fish were given a bit of privacy. It looked daft but it worked, plus it was his fish shed so wasn't noticed. Sometimes we forget that spawning fish do need a wee bit privacy. Even someone new/different appearing can be enough to put them off. It may not be a good idea to move the tank now to somewhere quieter but finding a way to offer them more privacy could help. If fish think their eggs/fry are in danger then they will abandon them or eat them.
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12 Sep 2017 11:27 #35 by robert
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Hi Bill , thanks for your post , the tank is in the second bedroom so get very little traffic passing , the fish come over to me any time i go into the room , really love these guys great charactor andbeautiful fish , hence the reason i would love to breed them , i even have an auto feeder on then in order not to disturb them . I think i will just hold off , and give themtime

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04 Oct 2017 14:07 #36 by robert
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This is beyond a joke , so last night my female angel started laying egg , i was watching the other angel which i think is a male just watched , the lights then went off, on checking the tank this morning the eggs were gone . So has anyone got a proven pair of angel fish for sale ?

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13 Oct 2017 19:50 #37 by robert
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Just an update , i got another pair of breeding angels today , put them in the tank with the other pair , and ww3 broke out , have been watching them for a couple of hours now and decided i wasnt going to leave them all together for the night . So both platiums are in the quartine tank . Now the new pair arnt great colour wise , i was wondering could i put the male of the new pair in with just the female platium in the hope that if i got a spawning and the new male did fertilisse the eggs i might get a better quality fry . I know its a long shot but what are your views

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17 Oct 2017 20:39 #38 by robert
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Another update , wellthe new pair of angels i got on friday have spawned tonight , wasnt expecting this to happen so soon , the eggs look quite white so dont thing they are fertile ,but the male is very protective of them , so will see it they are still their in the morning

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18 Oct 2017 15:16 #39 by robert
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Eggs were gone this morning , and so the sarga continues

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18 Oct 2017 17:13 #40 by JohnH
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Since you have now bought your new pair of Angels Robert, this thread can be moved to American Cichlids.

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26 Oct 2017 19:44 #41 by robert
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Well the new angels spawned and the following morning the eggs were gone . Think i will give up and get a pair of hamsters

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26 Oct 2017 20:11 #42 by fishmad1234
Robert that could happen 20 times before they actually learn how to look after the eggs.

If your looking to breed them after they have laid eggs take them out put an air stone with the flow of air going over the eggs and wait till they hatch.


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28 Oct 2017 14:13 #43 by robert
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Bingo , just looked into the tank with the new pair of angels and at the back of the breeding cone i see about a dozen wrigglers . Now i need help , what do i feed these on when they become frre swimming , need something i can buy not into brine shrimp hatcheries . Could i use flake food crushes to a very fine dust , also heard of a food called first bits does anyone know anything about it . Am really excited about this , can i assume that later spawnings will hatch in bigger numbers , getting gready now

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28 Oct 2017 14:37 #44 by robert
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Excited so forgot to ask , is it ok to leave the parent in the tank , as i would prefer to see the natural process

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28 Oct 2017 15:57 #45 by fishmad1234

Bingo , just looked into the tank with the new pair of angels and at the back of the breeding cone i see about a dozen wrigglers . Now i need help , what do i feed these on when they become frre swimming , need something i can buy not into brine shrimp hatcheries . Could i use flake food crushes to a very fine dust , also heard of a food called first bits does anyone know anything about it . Am really excited about this , can i assume that later spawnings will hatch in bigger numbers , getting gready now


The first bites stuff you will have to order it online I don't think any where sells it.

I got mine in the states picked it up for a potential spawn and they had spawned when I came back I also have liquid fry I never used if you want to drop out to me tomorrow you can have the liquid fry and the rest of the pack of first bites


Congrats on the spawn


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28 Oct 2017 17:20 #46 by robert
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Hi Craig , thanks a million for your offer , just text me your address to 0872627945 and i would be very thankful . Robert

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29 Oct 2017 17:13 #47 by robert
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Fry are free swimming today started feeding with liquid fry , reckon about 30 fry so we live inhope

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30 Oct 2017 13:30 #48 by robert
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Just brought a secondhand 30 litr tank this morning am going to set for the angel fish fry , and believe it or not the platiums spawned last night in their tank but dont know as yet if the eggs are fertile , so interesting times ahead

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31 Oct 2017 15:53 #49 by ger310
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Just brought a secondhand 30 litr tank this morning am going to set for the angel fish fry , and believe it or not the platiums spawned last night in their tank but dont know as yet if the eggs are fertile , so interesting times ahead


So are you moving the fry away from the parents?

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31 Oct 2017 16:04 #50 by robert
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By the time i got the new tank set up the parents had eaten all the fry , so i think next time i will move the eggs just before they become free swimming , what do you think ?

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31 Oct 2017 16:24 #51 by ger310
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By the time i got the new tank set up the parents had eaten all the fry , so i think next time i will move the eggs just before they become free swimming , what do you think ?


Myself personally I would leave the parents in with the fry for the next couple of spawns and see how they get on as Angels are super parents and will raise there fry to be very confident fish.......obviously if they continue eating them then plan B will have to be used.

Are the 2 pairs of Angels in the same tank and is there other occupants aswell?

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31 Oct 2017 18:17 #52 by robert
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Hi , no the two pairs of angels are in diffent tanks , the platiums that i have had all the hassle with spawned last night , so i moved the piece of slate into the new tank , not sure if any of the eggs are fertile . I spoke to the guy i got them from and he asured me he had two lots of fry from them . So now its a waiting game again , but at least this time i am better prepared .

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31 Oct 2017 18:28 #53 by ger310
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Hi , no the two pairs of angels are in diffent tanks , the platiums that i have had all the hassle with spawned last night , so i moved the piece of slate into the new tank , not sure if any of the eggs are fertile . I spoke to the guy i got them from and he asured me he had two lots of fry from them . So now its a waiting game again , but at least this time i am better prepared .


Cool........if you haven't already then get your hands on some methylene blue.......with no parents there to tend to the eggs fungus might grow on them and they could all die before they get to wriggler stage.....Methylene blue will sort that though ok.

And are the other pair that spawned in with other fish?...i'm just wondering could the free swimmers being eaten by other fish when the lights are out and not by the parents

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31 Oct 2017 22:19 #54 by robert
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Both pairs in seperate tanks by themselves . Will have to get some methaline blue tomorrow . All i had was malicite green for the pond put a tiny amount of that in the tank with the eggs , most of them are white so not fertile . But time will tell .

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31 Oct 2017 22:56 #55 by ger310
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Both pairs in seperate tanks by themselves . Will have to get some methaline blue tomorrow . All i had was malicite green for the pond put a tiny amount of that in the tank with the eggs , most of them are white so not fertile . But time will tell .


Malacite green will also do the job........hopefully there is a few fertile........I would be optimistic about the other pair though so keep the faith ok

Ger

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03 Nov 2017 20:23 #56 by robert
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Just an update , the slate i took from the platiums some of the eggs have hatched, not a lot but some, am battling with fungus even though i treated with methline blue . Well at least i now now the platiums are a pair . So its a step in the right direction, got a lot to learn yet .

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05 Nov 2017 20:59 - 19 Nov 2017 13:41 #57 by robert
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Update , the platium angels fry are now free swimming , cant believe the amount of them , did about a 10% water change using an airline tube to both remove water and add the declorinated water . Now that they are free swimming do i still need to have the methlane blue in the water . Does this stay active or does one need to be replacing it . Thanks

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05 Nov 2017 23:44 #58 by JohnH
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In the absence of anyone replying Robert I'll just say that you no longer need the methylene blue as you were only adding it to help keep fungus at bay from the eggs, now they've hatched you will no longer need to add any more. Also it breaks down over the space of a few days so it likely as not has already degraded.

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19 Nov 2017 15:59 #59 by robert
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Thanks to john for posting the picture for me , these fry are from the second pair of angels i purchased

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19 Nov 2017 16:33 - 19 Nov 2017 16:34 #60 by Jonlate
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Hey Robert,
Being to lazy to reread all the post, were these from your original pair or from the 2nd pair you got?
It’s graet to see you have fry, lets hope some make it to be fully grown.
Makes me want to get mine out my tank and see what they will do!!
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