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23 Jan 2008 21:02 #1 by umm (karen baker)
Just wondering if anyone has tried tetra safe start and was it any good?

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24 Jan 2008 13:14 #2 by Dobarchu (Adrian Redican)
From what I can gather most of those quick fix cycling products are a waste of money. The bacteria which convert the ammonia to Nitrite and Nitrite to Nitrate are aerobic bacteria. This means they cannot survive without a constant supply of oxygen, which means they can't be bought in a bottle. Whatever these products do they certainly don't add the required bacteria to your aquarium.

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24 Jan 2008 19:44 #3 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
This has been debated before on the forum. I too would agree that the required bacteria can't survive indefinitely in a bottle. However, there are those who believe that these products work and speed up the cycle.

There's no substitute for getting media from a mature filter. Try and find a member that lives close to you or ask your LFS.

Regards,

Ken.

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24 Jan 2008 20:46 #4 by Dave (Dave Fallon)
I've used Safe Start Litreally hundreds of times with customers new tanks.

While the science behind it may not conform to the chemistry that people read in books it does work. It's designed to lighten the load slightly on a new filter, while you introduce a few hardy fish.

Qui Vivra Verra.

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25 Jan 2008 11:29 #5 by Dobarchu (Adrian Redican)

while you introduce a few hardy fish.


Do you mean fish that are better at surviving with a level of ammonia in the water?

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28 Jan 2008 13:36 - 30 Jan 2008 19:04 #6 by Dave (Dave Fallon)
No I mean that some fish can tolerate slightly less than ideal water conditions for a short period of time.

EDIT [...] I'm putting forward my own opinion of the product, having used it many times and suggestted customers use it. EDIT [...] why dont you ask one of the many satisfied customers who've set up a tank using this product.

Qui Vivra Verra.
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28 Jan 2008 18:00 - 30 Jan 2008 19:05 #7 by Dobarchu (Adrian Redican)
Excuse me, but when you stated:

It's designed to lighten the load slightly on a new filter,


This suggested to me that this product you're referring to doesn't do a whole lot,

the next bit:

while you introduce a few hardy fish.


smacks of the old days when people just inserted a few hardy fish into a non cycled tank.

EDIT [...]
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30 Jan 2008 18:07 - 30 Jan 2008 19:07 #8 by Dave (Dave Fallon)
Have you ever used it? I'm going to assume you haven't. So how do you know whether it does or not. Perhaps you could mention a 'better' way of doing it, like Ken does for example.

EDIT [...] To answer the original question, I have used it and found it worked.

EDIT [...]

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30 Jan 2008 19:02 #9 by Valerie (Valerie)
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Now, lads ... Sshhhh... ! Easy.

This is probably a case of mis-reading and mis-interpretation of each other's posts here.
Remember that the rules are \"attack the post, not the poster\" and I think we should stick to this.

Maybe you should ring each other or send each other a PM or two, and I am sure you will work it out.

I am editing out some items from the previous posts.
If you have any queries, don't hesitate to contact me.

Kindest regards,
Valerie

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