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22 Mar 2014 18:21 #1 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I'll be starting up a guppy only tank soon. Is coral sand ok as a substrate?

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22 Mar 2014 20:51 #2 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
Just be careful of your PH
Guppies like the ph somewhere between 5.5 and 8!!!

Just be careful that your ph doesnt rise too high and stress them

(Coral sand will rise ph)

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23 Mar 2014 00:04 #3 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
do you think having relatively little sand will make a difference? I'm only intending to but about a half inch of it in the tank

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23 Mar 2014 07:24 #4 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
Just put a small layer in a bucket along with a airsone or a filter and check your ph and tds and you wil know really quickly.
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23 Mar 2014 10:16 #5 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
Good way to test the ph alright!!!!
Just keep an eye on kh levels aswell
From memory they need between 15 and 25 or something like that!!!!

I think itll be determined by your tap waters ph (test this also)
If the ph is higher than 8 you might try play sand (cheap alternative) or crystal quartz sand (very pretty in a tank) as alternatives

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23 Mar 2014 10:33 #6 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
The water out this way is pretty bog standard; pH around 7-7.2. Since I'll have the tank fishless for a few weeks I might run it in and test as I go

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23 Mar 2014 10:53 #7 by anthonyd (Anthony Debesne)
If you use an external filter, just put some coral sand in a sock insite the chamber, much easier to adjust the quantity needed to get the right parameters and to remove some if needed.
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23 Mar 2014 11:02 #8 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

anthonyd wrote: If you use an external filter, just put some coral sand in a sock insite the chamber, much easier to adjust the quantity needed to get the right parameters and to remove some if needed.
Anthony


Jesus! I keep forgetting that about externals!

Yeah, I think i might use ordinary sand in the tank and put some coral stuff in the filter. It's be much easier to manage. Thanks for that ;)

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23 Mar 2014 16:43 #9 by ger310 (Ger .)
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Ehh can I ask why you need to use any kind of coral either in your tank or in your filter? Yis are confusing me!!!.....easily done I might add!!!

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23 Mar 2014 17:00 #10 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

ger310 wrote: Ehh can I ask why you need to use any kind of coral either in your tank or in your filter? Yis are confusing me!!!.....easily done I might add!!!

Ger


cos guppies have a preference for slightly higher pH and hardness

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23 Mar 2014 17:13 #11 by ger310 (Ger .)
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LemonJelly wrote:

ger310 wrote: Ehh can I ask why you need to use any kind of coral either in your tank or in your filter? Yis are confusing me!!!.....easily done I might add!!!

Ger


cos guppies have a preference for slightly higher pH and hardness


Jeepers that's good to know......I wouldn't of thought they were that fussed and what's coming out of your tap would of done the job nicely.

What are you kind of aiming for?

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23 Mar 2014 19:07 #12 by meleftone (Kevin Usher)
Just from a quick read online "For guppies, the ideal water pH ranges from 6.8-7."

guppyfishcare.com/

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23 Mar 2014 20:40 #13 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

ger310 wrote:

LemonJelly wrote:

ger310 wrote: Ehh can I ask why you need to use any kind of coral either in your tank or in your filter? Yis are confusing me!!!.....easily done I might add!!!

Ger


cos guppies have a preference for slightly higher pH and hardness


Jeepers that's good to know......I wouldn't of thought they were that fussed and what's coming out of your tap would of done the job nicely.

What are you kind of aiming for?

Ger


in fairness, if any fish it tolerant of varied parameters, it's the guppy. They can survive temps as low as 15, maybe lower... right the way up to 30. They can tolerate varying pH and can survive in 150% strength seawater.

that being said, the ideal parameters are moderate hardness and neutral to slightly alkaline pH

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23 Mar 2014 23:48 #14 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)

meleftone wrote: Just from a quick read online "For guppies, the ideal water pH ranges from 6.8-7."

guppyfishcare.com/



Fire red guppy
requirements:
Minimum Tank Size: 20 gallons
Care Level: EasyTemperament: PeacefulWater Conditions: 64-82° F, KH 10-30, pH 5.5-8.0Max. Size: 2"Color Form: Black, Red, White, YellowDiet: OmnivoreOrigin: Farm Raised, SingaporeFamily: Poeciliidae

Blue cobra guppy
 QUICK STATSMinimum Tank Size: 20 gallonsCare Level: EasyTemperament: PeacefulWater Conditions: 64-82° F, KH 10-30, pH 5.5-8.0Max. Size: 2½"Color Form: Black, Blue, OrangeDiet: OmnivoreOrigin: Captive-bred in Asia, Central America to BrazilFamily: Poeciliida

aquarium-fish.liveaquaria.com/search?w=guppy

Some guppys are hardy little buggers
But some require proper water parameters because it hasnt been bread out of them

Fancy guppys are not always easy kept

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24 Mar 2014 10:50 #15 by dshamrock2000 (Dave)
Any Idea what guppies your going to go for? I just use Riversand, barely half an inch, I also find the bogoak helps with keeping Ph stable, other than that I have plants etc and The Guppies are thirving, I'm getting some nice mixed offspring of Endlers and regular guppies. I'd 100% recommend a few endlers as some of the markings and colourings on the offsping are brilliant,.

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24 Mar 2014 11:03 #16 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

dshamrock2000 wrote: Any Idea what guppies your going to go for? I just use Riversand, barely half an inch, I also find the bogoak helps with keeping Ph stable, other than that I have plants etc and The Guppies are thirving, I'm getting some nice mixed offspring of Endlers and regular guppies. I'd 100% recommend a few endlers as some of the markings and colourings on the offsping are brilliant,.


i dunno about endler's! they're nice but don't really do it for me. I'm just going to have a mixed guppy tank, all males. I'm going to put a few plants in it too; crypts and vallisneria tortifolia, nothing too fancy. I just want it to be small, neat and easy to maintain. a lot of my setups for the next 2 years or so will be done with having the little fella around in mind. Stuff that won't be hard work to maintain and yet that he'll get a blast out of looking at

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