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17 Jun 2010 10:49 #1 by JohnH (John)
A REMINDER was created by JohnH (John)
In the light of another 'silly' post which has now been deleted it seems an opportune time to remind each and every one of ALL members making posts on the Forum that this is first and foremost a FISH-ORIENTED FORUM and that the place for childish comments and the like is NOT here!

Likewise applies to personal attacks - in fact the Forum Rules are very specific on this point - "attack the post, not the poster".

Time to call a halt to it, it is most apparent that many of the serious Aquarists who so regularly contributed no longer bother, we want to see them return - their absence is greatly felt and the help and knowledge they can impart is invaluable to us all.

So, if you want to make inane comments and snide remarks -

GO ELSEWHERE!!!

John

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17 Jun 2010 21:06 #2 by JohnH (John)
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We're unlocking this post for comments - pro and con - for a couple of days...unless it gets out of hand, but hopefully it won't, so please comment away.

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17 Jun 2010 21:14 #3 by convict84 (sean farrell)
what was the jist of this post,
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17 Jun 2010 21:27 #4 by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Id just like to say that i dont mind any of the social topics on this site, I visit the site alot and sometimes there no new topics but im not bother if someone want to talk about something other than fish. Gerry
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17 Jun 2010 21:33 #5 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Hi Gerry,

I think that's the issue, off topics are just that, off topic and should be addressed in the social and rubbish to maintain a thread of serious debate on topic ie, Fish keeping.

Kev.
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17 Jun 2010 21:38 #6 by Gerry The Chip (Gerard)
Yeah aslong as its in the social and rubbish section i dont mind:-)
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17 Jun 2010 22:03 - 17 Jun 2010 22:04 #7 by dar (darren curry)
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ok here's a man in question, listen i dont condone abusing members or calling names and to make a member feel threatened or insulted should result in warnings then removed, but if some one makes a comment that is not to your satisfaction just ignore it, getting in a twist can make the matter worse trust me, johnh now you had a little bit of banter in the post in question it only got out of hand wen insults started, people have a right to talk and to have some one removed from here because they said something witty would be a shame and goes to say something for the reporter, live and let live the true members will be here a long time and you cant discriminate against an irish tropical fish keeper because of their humour

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17 Jun 2010 22:03 #8 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
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I think it is more suitable for me to post the basics of what was in my post in the thread that was deleted this morning, as this describes my feelings on the matter to a T...

I, like an awful lot of other people I know personally, am a bit frustrated with the way it seems nearly every thread descends into a joke these days. This forum used to be one of the best on the internet (for talking about fish) but I can think of so many usernames that are now dormant as a direct result of this forum slowly having less and less to do with fish and more and more to do with football and messing etc. It now just seems to be the home of witty banter.
Some of you guys would know what I mean if you were using this forum 12 months ago.
I've got nothing against any single user personally.


Note: I have doctored this slightly to make it more relavant to this thread. If you would like to see the post as I made it I can post on request.
For the record in case that's what some people may think; I didn't report that thread, I didn't complain about it, ask for it to be removed, nor did I take the insult personally. I would have been content for it to stay up, although I fully respect the decision of the owners or admin to remove it.
Cheers.
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17 Jun 2010 22:23 #9 by stretnik (stretnik)
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darrencurry wrote:

but if some one makes a comment that is not to your satisfaction just ignore it


There's the nub of most of the blasted cr@p that seems to turn the Forum on it's head WHY POST REMARKS THAT ARE BOUND TO RUFFLE FEATHERS OR CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET IN A " TWIST " in the first place?

I think I said before, a bit of forethought would prevent this happening.
A few breaths and think of the consequences of any wayward comments.

If anyone has issues with a poster re Sales that didn't quite work or deals that went belly up etc, contact the poster , that's what pm is for, the forum is not a conduit by which you garner support to admonish the seller, giver or donator.

My comments are not directed at anyone in particular, it's a generalisation.


All I ask is that issues not pertinent to Fishkeeping should be dealt with elsewhere.


Kev.
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17 Jun 2010 22:31 #10 by dar (darren curry)
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well if it was sale related why it started that's between the two people and should never be took out during posts

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17 Jun 2010 22:33 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Sorry Darren, I don't understand what you mean.



Kev.
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17 Jun 2010 22:44 - 17 Jun 2010 22:46 #12 by dar (darren curry)
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sorry must be crossed wires, i thought you had inside info on the disagreement

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17 Jun 2010 22:57 #13 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Nope Darren,

I like an easy life as no doubt we all do, it looks really bitchy when the correspondence here looks like people siding with People against other People.

Everyone is welcome on the Forum according to Admin but only providing we all agree to the rules. I don't care how people resolve their differences as long as they use the option provided, ie. PM. It looks so bad when the Topics get personal, there really is no room for it on a Fishkeeping Forum, it begins to look like a free for all and can lead to insults.

I always see the Forum as a last bastion of Friendly chat and advice despite snide remarks and asides been thrown about and used to look forward to " hanging " with the guys but I am starting to dread it and if it continues I feel I might just use pm to share info and bypass the Topics section altogether.

I don't know if I'd be missed and tbh, it doesn't matter to me.

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17 Jun 2010 23:55 #14 by dar (darren curry)
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i feel this will go on and on, y should people not have the craic, y don't people take it 100% serious? every one is different, once shit doesn't get personal or insulting

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18 Jun 2010 00:20 #15 by stretnik (stretnik)
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It will only go on if the Guidelines cannot be adhered to, the inclusion of the word Sh£t is a case in point, how many times has it been explained, gone over, said, told etc etc etc that the Forum is open to all ages and everyone should try to refrain from using bad language, it seems a pointless task to ask for some degree of manners etc when you can't even refrain from using bad language. Pretend you are talking to your own child then imagine strangers using it around it, I know I wouldn't be happy and I doubt you would. I'm done on this thread.

Kev.
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18 Jun 2010 00:27 #16 by JohnH (John)
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OK, there have been a good deal of opinions expressed - far more than I ever expected so I think it's time to lock it again now.
John

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