Ick survival capabilities

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05 May 2014 09:32 #1 by gunnered72 (Eddy Gunnered)
Can ick survive out of water?

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05 May 2014 09:48 #2 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Ich needs water and a host to survive.so when it has neither it will die.it will die within 48hours but others say maybe a week.bottom line is it dries up complety then it will die.of course this may be of use for people who remove some media and the likes from a tank but turning up the temperature still is the best all round method of ensuring this parasite dies quicker and eliminates any free swiming stages also before they get a host. treatment helps also.
Gavin

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05 May 2014 10:00 #3 by paulv (paul vickers)

Fishowner wrote: Ich needs water and a host to survive.so when it has neither it will die.it will die within 48hours but others say maybe a week.bottom line is it dries up complety then it will die.of course this may be of use for people who remove some media and the likes from a tank but turning up the temperature still is the best all round method of ensuring this parasite dies quicker and eliminates any free swiming stages also before they get a host. treatment helps also.
Gavin

by removing any thing from the tank and drying it out will kill the tomont stage. All raising water temp does is to speed up the next stage free swimmers theronts, at 24plus deg it takes hours to devdlop but in a cold water koi goldfish pond this can take years.

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05 May 2014 10:10 #4 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
In reality the parasite is almost impossible to remove from a tank by removing everything. if its a case of removing everything.the parasite will be in the tank water etc...raising the temp will speed up the life cycle whilst treatment will help also.in terms of cold water fish then treatment is presumably the best way to eliminate.

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05 May 2014 10:45 #5 by paulv (paul vickers)
In commercial fish farms its a huge serious problem killing from 50 to 100% of infected fish with no real permanent cure. In usa they are trying to develop a vaccine to control it. Maintaining healthy stress free fish is the best wat to contfol white spot.

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05 May 2014 10:55 #6 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Good advise there Paul. Quite often the introduction of new fish to a tank can carry it also but I agree, regular water changes and stress free fish should ensure this isnt a problem.many new fishkeepers experience it abit but as they get more experienced I think its less of a problem and should be rare in a well maintained tank.Also the treatments can stain white silicone seals which stains them for good.Ive had it previously when newer to the hobby but thankfully it's probably 5 years since I've encountered it last.

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05 May 2014 11:23 #7 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

Fishowner wrote: Good advise there Paul. Quite often the introduction of new fish to a tank can carry it also but I agree, regular water changes and stress free fish should ensure this isnt a problem.many new fishkeepers experience it abit but as they get more experienced I think its less of a problem and should be rare in a well maintained tank.Also the treatments can stain white silicone seals which stains them for good.Ive had it previously when newer to the hobby but thankfully it's probably 5 years since I've encountered it last.


+1 on that. I had a few outbreaks in the first few years I was fishkeeping but in the last 7-8 years I've had only one, and it was related to the introduction of new fish. I think good water husbandry helps alot.

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05 May 2014 12:31 #8 by paulv (paul vickers)

LemonJelly wrote:

Fishowner wrote: Good advise there Paul. Quite often the introduction of new fish to a tank can carry it also but I agree, regular water changes and stress free fish should ensure this isnt a problem.many new fishkeepers experience it abit but as they get more experienced I think its less of a problem and should be rare in a well maintained tank.Also the treatments can stain white silicone seals which stains them for good.Ive had it previously when newer to the hobby but thankfully it's probably 5 years since I've encountered it last.


+1 on that. I had a few outbreaks in the first few years I was fishkeeping but in the last 7-8 years I've had only one, and it was related to the introduction of new fish. I think good water husbandry helps alot.

+1 can I agree with myself :whistle:

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05 May 2014 13:41 #9 by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)

paulv wrote:

LemonJelly wrote:

Fishowner wrote: Good advise there Paul. Quite often the introduction of new fish to a tank can carry it also but I agree, regular water changes and stress free fish should ensure this isnt a problem.many new fishkeepers experience it abit but as they get more experienced I think its less of a problem and should be rare in a well maintained tank.Also the treatments can stain white silicone seals which stains them for good.Ive had it previously when newer to the hobby but thankfully it's probably 5 years since I've encountered it last.


+1 on that. I had a few outbreaks in the first few years I was fishkeeping but in the last 7-8 years I've had only one, and it was related to the introduction of new fish. I think good water husbandry helps alot.

+1 can I agree with myself :whistle:


Of course you can... but it'll have about as much effect as patting yourself on the back... ;)

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10 May 2014 13:48 #10 by irish-zx10r (James feenan)
what is the best way to treat this? i seen some using a salt bath and i also did a salt bath on one african cichlid that made a full recovery since

it was a emergency case so i dont know if it was safe to do.

Something fishie going on here

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