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29 Sep 2014 11:46 - 29 Sep 2014 11:48 #1 by irish-zx10r
I got home from work this morning at 8am first thing I notice was a big bar of soap in my cichlid tank. when I took it out it went into a million pieces I have done 60% water change is there anything else I should do.

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29 Sep 2014 12:02 #2 by Ski
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lol

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29 Sep 2014 12:55 - 29 Sep 2014 12:56 #3 by baan
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oh... that's not good.

I haven't had a soap problem, but I'd say you might have to move the fish to another tank and clean it out completely.
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29 Sep 2014 13:03 #4 by hammie
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James

Id empty the tank completely and wash everything out to be honest!!!
Soap now a days have moisturisers and so on added so even if the soap itself wasnt toxic enough for the fish, some of the added ingredients will be!


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29 Sep 2014 13:07 #5 by Ski
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Didn't mean to laugh at your misfortune James, I'm assuming the kids managed to put it in?

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29 Sep 2014 13:10 - 29 Sep 2014 22:45 #6 by JohnH
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If it's a detergent-based soap (and I think almost all are nowadays) you would be well advised to follow Baan's advice (above) as it can be lethal to aquatic life in even very minute quantities.

I remember when they used detergent to help clear up an oil spill at sea in the 70s (possibly the Torrey Canyon tanker disaster) it was reckoned that the detergent they used killed more marine life than the oil did!

But I would still be very cautious with 'pure' soap and take the same remedial action myself.

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29 Sep 2014 13:36 #7 by platty252
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Empty the tank.
I've seen the effect of soap in a salt water tank. Complete wipe out.

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29 Sep 2014 19:52 #8 by Q_Comets
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Fingers crossed for you man. You don't deserve another disaster. How long do you know how long the soap was in there before you got there?

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29 Sep 2014 20:42 #9 by JohnH
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James has asked me to post this link to a video he has taken after the 'clean-up'.
It's showing - for me at least - as a Private Video but I've emailed him to ask him to free it up for general viewing - hopefully later it will be possible to look at it.



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29 Sep 2014 22:06 #10 by igmillichip
A very serious problem.
The soap in itself (ignoring any perfumes etc) is enough to not only do damage itself but to massively increase the potential of damage from other chemicals and microbes even where the soap itself doesn't affect the fish.

Fingers crossed, and hope the water changes are done in time.

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30 Sep 2014 11:33 #11 by irish-zx10r
Thanks John for posting the video I can change it from private from my phone anyway another big water change today and another cleanup on the tank here is no sign of soap now ammonia reading 0 ppm nitrate 0 ppm nitrite 0 ppm Ph 8.2 all fish look but it's early days
Big shock to myself

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30 Sep 2014 11:37 - 30 Sep 2014 15:32 #12 by JohnH
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It's still telling me 'This Video is Private'

John

Edit: Ah, I see it now - looks as though you averted a potential disaster.
It might be as well to cover the gap where the soap entered.

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30 Sep 2014 17:48 #13 by irish-zx10r
I don't know if you notice from the video but its hard to even squeeze my hand in the gap only soap would go down that gap

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30 Sep 2014 18:07 #14 by JohnH
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But that's all it took - imagine what else (OK not a hand) could fit through there?

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30 Sep 2014 20:29 #15 by andrewo
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Hi James; glad to know all fishes are safe!

I must say the tank is looking fab from the video! Well done great job.

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30 Sep 2014 21:49 #16 by irish-zx10r

Hi James; glad to know all fishes are safe!

I must say the tank is looking fab from the video! Well done great job.


Thanks andrewo
The tank is shining now at this stage
And all fish are very clean I think I been lucky this time hopefully the young lad won't drop anything else in

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30 Sep 2014 22:10 #17 by irish-zx10r

Didn't mean to laugh at your misfortune James, I'm assuming the kids managed to put it in?[/quot]
I don't blame you for laughing my young lad is wild he is about 2ft tall and going on 3 yrs old the tank is 5ft off the ground and he is still able to do harm


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01 Oct 2014 07:39 #18 by paulv
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Great video James, good you can see the funny side. I had a disaster of my own 2 days ago, a fuse tripped and the air pump was off in my big tank, my 23inch tiger shovel nose died, most of the other fish were floating almost dead including my 26inch silver aro, thankfully by some miracle they all recovered.

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01 Oct 2014 08:22 #19 by Ski
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Didn't mean to laugh at your misfortune James, I'm assuming the kids managed to put it in?[/quot]
I don't blame you for laughing my young lad is wild he is about 2ft tall and going on 3 yrs old the tank is 5ft off the ground and he is still able to do harm


Ha ha. Yeah my lad is one and he's a terror already so god knows what he'll get up to as well

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01 Oct 2014 08:28 #20 by Ski
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Great video James, good you can see the funny side. I had a disaster of my own 2 days ago, a fuse tripped and the air pump was off in my big tank, my 23inch tiger shovel nose died, most of the other fish were floating almost dead including my 26inch silver aro, thankfully by some miracle they all recovered.


Wow close one Paul. Sorry to hear about the tiger but glad the others are on the mend. I've never used an air pump, I just have the filter outlet above the water line. Just one less thing to worry about

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01 Oct 2014 09:18 #21 by paulv
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Thanks ski, I thought I lost my aro, its amazing how fast they recovered, from floating on the surface to swimming in 1 hour or so. When the fuse tripped all the power went out in that side of the house so the sump return pump also stopped. I was lucky my wife spotted it at 6.30, another hour and the whole tank was dead.

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01 Oct 2014 09:20 #22 by Ski
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Jez close one so. Scary how much time you can put into a tank and it can be wiped out in a few hours

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01 Oct 2014 09:29 #23 by irish-zx10r

Great video James, good you can see the funny side. I had a disaster of my own 2 days ago, a fuse tripped and the air pump was off in my big tank, my 23inch tiger shovel nose died, most of the other fish were floating almost dead including my 26inch silver aro, thankfully by some miracle they all recovered.


I hope u did the lotto straight away you are so lucky u didn't loose all your fish what ever about mine they can be replaced yours on the other hand would be hard with the size of them.sorry to here about your shovel nose fish I think there is a lesson to be learn from experience. I just uploaded a new video on YouTube all are gone mad breeding last night and today

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01 Oct 2014 11:21 #24 by paulv
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You're right james, if I lost my fish it would take me years to replace them, I bought most of them as babies over 3yrs ago and grew them on. Even im sad to lose thd tsh it can be replaced but ive 2 special fish, synodontis angelicus and megladoras irwini, both expensive and hard to replace.

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