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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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15 Jun 2016 18:19 #61 by robert (robert carter)
thanks Andrew

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16 Jun 2016 08:12 - 16 Jun 2016 08:12 #62 by john gannon (John Gannon)
unfortunatly i didnt get a chance last night checked this morning i have fry with the fp. steelii.if you dont have anything robert i can swap with another species later.

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16 Jun 2016 11:11 #63 by robert (robert carter)
hi john ,just checked my jar this morning and no signs of life , I will leave it until the morning before I dry it out . was thinking of ordering some eggs off ebay , whos the best supplier and whats the best variety for a beginner ? Robert. ps how long will the mirco worm culture last and do I need to do anything to it

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16 Jun 2016 11:26 #64 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Usually a week or so Robert I put my 2 bags of microworms into lunch boxs on Tuesday nite and they don't seem to be doing well there was still some in the jar for the fry to eat but have to feed them today and I'm hoping the microworms will be crawling up the side of the lunch box so I can feed the hungry fry still all alive and doing OK a few lying on the bottom of the jar hoping they aren't belly sliders.

Have t been able to watch them enough to see if they swim up for air hoping they are just lazy :cheer:


Craig

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16 Jun 2016 15:15 #65 by Hicker12 (Stephen Hickey)

hi john ,just checked my jar this morning and no signs of life , I will leave it until the morning before I dry it out . was thinking of ordering some eggs off ebay , whos the best supplier and whats the best variety for a beginner ? Robert. ps how long will the mirco worm culture last and do I need to do anything to it


Hey Rob, i will pm you the details of a guy i use for killi eggs. Have used him for years always good eggs.

Stephen

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16 Jun 2016 17:06 #66 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

hi john ,just checked my jar this morning and no signs of life , I will leave it until the morning before I dry it out . was thinking of ordering some eggs off ebay , whos the best supplier and whats the best variety for a beginner ? Robert. ps how long will the mirco worm culture last and do I need to do anything to it


For annual killis the best species to start with is Nothobranchius guentheri........... these are usually easy to get hold of, don't require the breeder to be a specialist, have lower changes of hatching problems than many other annual killifish.

But if you wanted to go a non-annual then I would suggest being bold and going for Fundulopanchax sjoestedti. as they only rarely get into shops.............and can be quite crap when you do see them in shops anyway.

ian

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16 Jun 2016 19:28 #67 by john gannon (John Gannon)
robert i have some gunterii that hatched which you can have.
with the microworm culture dids yous make up some smash to put the starter culture on .the microwormd need to be fed also.i have cultures if yous need.
john

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16 Jun 2016 19:48 #68 by Eric (Eric Corcoran)
Really enjoyed the other night. We want to see plenty of pics of the fry as they grow

Eric

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16 Jun 2016 19:51 #69 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)

robert i have some gunterii that hatched which you can have.
with the microworm culture dids yous make up some smash to put the starter culture on .the microwormd need to be fed also.i have cultures if yous need.
john


No John I just emptied the bag into the lunch box I have some porridge but no yeast I must go over to the shop and buy some smash make up a new culture can't see any movement in the lunch box s I have

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16 Jun 2016 19:55 #70 by Eric (Eric Corcoran)
Just mix up some porridge in luke warm water into a paste . Stir in the micro worms and leave beside a tank or somewhere warm.

Eric

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16 Jun 2016 21:07 #71 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Poured the 2 cultures into 2 boxes with fresh porridge made with Luke warm water hopefully have some activity with them tomorrow as always thanks for the great advice and help :)


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Craig

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16 Jun 2016 21:28 #72 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
No matter how hard I try I can never make a good YouTube video :hammer:


Apologies for the really bad video.

Just a badly shot update of the 2 day old Killie fry we hatched at the meeting.


thankfully they all seem to be swimming around and no belly sliders well so far anyway.







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Craig

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16 Jun 2016 21:43 #73 by Bill (Bill Hunter)
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That looks like a good hatching :cool:
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16 Jun 2016 21:59 #74 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
18 hatched out of that batch bill


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Craig

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16 Jun 2016 23:07 #75 by robert (robert carter)
Looking good craig

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19 Jun 2016 16:09 #76 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Also thankfully today I checked the microworms and a lot of activity on the surface of the porridge mix.

I put some moss in the jar and a bit of floating plant so the fry could dine on what ever little microorganism s might be on them.


The fry seem to be getting bigger by the day still no loses witch I'm over the moon about going to do a little water change tomorrow on the jar they fry will be a week old on Tuesday.


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Craig

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23 Jun 2016 20:08 #77 by Roisin (Roisin Hunter)
Me And My Dad Just Got Killifish Eggs I Am So Excited To see the fry!!! :cool: :cool: :lol:

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26 Jun 2016 18:01 #78 by robert (robert carter)
Hi , the killifish eggs that i got at the meeting that didnt do anything , i have them dried out now for 2 weeks when should i give then another try . Thanks Robert

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26 Jun 2016 18:27 #79 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)

Hi , the killifish eggs that i got at the meeting that didnt do anything , i have them dried out now for 2 weeks when should i give then another try . Thanks Robert


Have you had a look through the peat to see if any of the eggs have eyed up Robert?
If you can see that tiny little Iris looking back at you I would say you are good to go

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26 Jun 2016 18:38 #80 by robert (robert carter)
Just had a look through the peat ,dont see anything , so would it be worth a try , if i took a bit of water out of the community tropical tank would that be ok

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26 Jun 2016 18:52 #81 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
What temperature is your tank?
The water you wet the eggs with should be a few degrees cooler than the temperature you have been storing them at.
What I have been doing with good results Robert is wetting the eggs with freshly treated tap water.
I fill a ten lt bucket,treat it and wet the eggs with it.
I use the remainder of the water for water changes of the fry tub.
This way there is not any changes in water parameters from what the fry are used to.
This is just my way of doing it, there may be better ways...

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26 Jun 2016 20:40 #82 by robert (robert carter)
Hi just checked the tank 24 deg c . The eggs were stored in a very small tuperware like container that sat on my shrimp tank also 24 deg c . Tap water today was 18.6 deg c . Room temp water is 21.2 deg c . So probably the best would be tap water treated left out to warm to room temp , that would be about 3deg c below the storage temp . Sorry for all the questions , but would like to give them the best chance of hatching

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26 Jun 2016 20:59 #83 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)

Hi just checked the tank 24 deg c . The eggs were stored in a very small tuperware like container that sat on my shrimp tank also 24 deg c . Tap water today was 18.6 deg c . Room temp water is 21.2 deg c . So probably the best would be tap water treated left out to warm to room temp , that would be about 3deg c below the storage temp . Sorry for all the questions , but would like to give them the best chance of hatching

I have not let it warm up to room temp before adding it. Have been using it at the temperature from the tap.The lower the water temperature the more oxygen it holds and have been seeing less belly sliders in the hatches using this method.
Like I said this is what has been working for me but it may not be the right way.
One of the more seasoned killifish keepers might weigh in with their opinions and give you more experienced advise.

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26 Jun 2016 22:19 #84 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Which killifish species eggs are you trying to hatch Robert?

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27 Jun 2016 04:38 #85 by robert (robert carter)
Not sure . Andrew did put the name here on this thread

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27 Jun 2016 17:26 #86 by Eric (Eric Corcoran)

fp.scheeli biv funge


There you go Ian

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27 Jun 2016 19:49 #87 by robert (robert carter)
So in a nutshell do i have a go at wetting these again with treated tap water tomorrow evening

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27 Jun 2016 21:32 #88 by JohnH (John)
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In a word, Robert, yes.
But I shouldn't be overly expectant.
I'll leave this to Ian - or any other member who has more knowledge with Killies - but I have always laboured under the apprehension that those from the Fundulopancha/Aphoysemion complex do not have long periods of gestation like the annual species do. Very personally i have never removed eggs from these - preferring to take away the breeding adults after a week or so then leaving the eggs in the tank until they hatch - usually in two to three weeks - the whole concept for hatching eggs of 'Annual' Killies is far longer, often six months (or sometimes longer)..
I'm not suggesting this is 'the way' to go about it - merely that that is the method I have always used with these.
Perhaps results are less prolific than those of others who remove eggs from the adult breeders - but I keep fish for pleasure - not for profit.

Anyway, back to Robert's eggs.
I would return them to the water soon, but honestly I fear (but hope I'm wrong) that nothing will hatch.

John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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27 Jun 2016 21:43 #89 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
As JohnH said above................ the fp (Fundulopanchax) type killis tend not to require an extended period of diapause............. I personally find that eggs do better when left in the water (with parents removed) BUT they can also be stored in damp peat as well.
I don't, though, find the latter the best.

Incubation if left in water is 2 to 3 weeks (and good yields); incubation in peat upto 6 weeks but with poorer yield (but it can still give fry).

I would aim for neutral to slightly acidic water for this species with temperatures in th low 20sC.

I would recommend using aged water.

so...dry them again, and try again.

ian

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27 Jun 2016 22:42 #90 by robert (robert carter)
Thanks for the post so i will wet them again tomorrow with aged water fom the tropical tank letting it cool to about 21deg c . So how long do i leave them wet for, if i take you right it could take up to 6months to hatch,is that right

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