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27 Jun 2016 22:48 #91 by JohnH (John)
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Once again we'll leave this for Ian to elaborate on - I'll just point out that since your eggs were from Fundulopanchax scheeli they won't be in the 6-month category.

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27 Jun 2016 23:08 #92 by robert (robert carter)
This is getting complicated , so how long do i leave the eggs or should i say the peat wetted for

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27 Jun 2016 23:16 #93 by JohnH (John)
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It really depends on when the eggs were collected - personally I would leave them in the water until you get some activity from fry - or not, as the case may be now as you will have had them well over a fortnight already.
But, that's only what I would do - Ian will probably have word of what he would do under the circumstances.

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27 Jun 2016 23:38 - 27 Jun 2016 23:54 #94 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
Just researched this species and Ian's advice is what I found.
Species prefers spawning on plants and most successful method of incubation is water incubation.
Drying eggs in peat is also used but has not shown as high a hatching rate as water incubation.
Wetting peat incubated eggs is done by using slightly acidic freshwater at a temperature several degrees lower than incubation temperature.
Temperature for raising fry is around 25° c.
So Robert
Wet your peat,wait up to 48 hrs and if no fry show on this second wetting, I would search the peat to see if there are any viable eggs left in it.
If there are eggs, redry and rewet in 2 to 3 weeks. or leave the eggs wet carrying out small water changes daily until fry hatch.
If you cant find any I would not try again with this bätch.
I will send you the N guentheri eggs and hopefully you will have success with them.
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28 Jun 2016 04:11 #95 by robert (robert carter)
Ok thanks for your help ,will have a go tonight

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28 Jun 2016 20:22 #96 by robert (robert carter)
well just wet the eggs at 21.21hrs so fingers crossed

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28 Jun 2016 21:08 #97 by robert (robert carter)
the wife thinks I have lost it completely staring into a container with peat moss in it . the more you stare into it you think you see movement but no such luck yet . there has to be something seriously wrong with the mental state of us fish keepers

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28 Jun 2016 21:26 #98 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
With a bit of luck Robert you will get a few fry this time around.
Keep us posted.

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28 Jun 2016 22:38 #99 by robert (robert carter)
Two hours and 12 minutes of staring into a container of peat moss , not a sign of movement , going to bed now so will see in the morning . Might be an idea to buy a bag of peat moss in aldi bag it up into countless tiny bags and sell them for a tenner , and as Dell boy said i could be a million air this time next year :crazy:

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29 Jun 2016 10:13 #100 by robert (robert carter)
well just checked the eggs no sign of movement but will give it another 24 hrs

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29 Jun 2016 10:21 #101 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
Was hoping to read you had a tub of fry this morning Robert.
Pm me your address Robert.
I have a bag of eggs here screaming to be wet and you will have fry by the weekend.

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29 Jun 2016 21:13 #102 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
So due to work commitments and the wife being on crutches and microworm cultures crashing left right and centre I haven't been giving the Killie fry the attention they needed looking through the container tonight and can only see 2 fry I don't know were the rest of them could be I have moss and decaying capatta leaves in the container had a root through them but still no were to be seen maybe they could be just hiding very well

Well hopefully anyway going to be much better prepared for when I hatch my next batch of Killie eggs going to try get a good few live food cultures going and not just depend on the microworms.

I'll have another root around the container tomorrow it's kinda baffling where they could be I have some filter moss in the container I was thinking maybe they Swam into it but cant see any.

Hopefully better news tomorrow.


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29 Jun 2016 21:42 #103 by robert (robert carter)
Hi Craig . Sorry to here about the wife , you need to watch those crutches as one around the head could be painful , anyway onto fishy things i have capatta leaves for my shrimp tank are they good for the killi fry , some in the shrimp tank would be fairly rotted . Robert

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29 Jun 2016 21:47 #104 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
They are purely there for the micro organisms for the fry to feed on not for there netruient that lower s ph

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30 Jun 2016 20:44 #105 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
@Robert............ the 6 month incubation would be some species of annual that demand an extended incubation period out of water: your species is NOT one of them.

There is no hard and fast incubation period for any of the killifish................if talking about siamese fighters or many other species of fish I recon we could estimate the incubation period to within half a day.

But not with killifish of any sort.

If you are using guess work then the initial incubation times I said previously are what you would aim for.
But never put all your eggs in one basket so to speak.................stagger the incubation time around the rough times as I mentioned previously if you are going by guess-work.

Now, one way to minimise guess work is to use a microscope to visualise the state of development of the eggs.
However, I tend to only use that method for really tricky to hatch fish that I would be very determined to breed as it does take the fun out of breeding (and it should be about fun).

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30 Jun 2016 23:15 #106 by robert (robert carter)
Sean is very kindly posting me up some eggs which i am hoping to have in the morning , he thinks there is a very good chance of some hatching , so providing they arrive i will wet them tomorrow evening , getting hooked on these fish . The more i research them the more fasintating they become , truely beautiful fish

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07 Jul 2016 07:07 #107 by Hicker12 (Stephen Hickey)
I have 25 fundulopanchax sjoestedti niger delta eggs to hatch at the weekend, its been a while since i had any killis so really looking forward to it. Will keep you's updated on how i get on.

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07 Jul 2016 22:29 #108 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Hicker12 wrote: I have 25 fundulopanchax sjoestedti niger delta eggs to hatch at the weekend, its been a while since i had any killis so really looking forward to it. Will keep you's updated on how i get on.

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16 Jul 2016 08:11 #109 by Hicker12 (Stephen Hickey)
Update, 0 hatch rate! Eggs looked white, maybe a fungus or dried out? Have ordered more eggs from a different seller.

Stephen.

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