Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
N. guentheri eggs
- Bill (Bill Hunter)
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I've got 3 packages of S.Am. annual eggs from the same seller which need a couple of weeks yet before being wet but I'm off to see if there are actually eggs in those packages before I continue storing and then wetting them.
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Good luck
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- wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
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Dry them out again and try again in a few weeks.
I had one batch that had to be wetted three times before I got fry.
I have sent you a message.
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- Bill (Bill Hunter)
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4 eggs of Simpsonichthys santanae have hatched out of 15.
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- wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
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You will have fry before you log off tonight.
There was a good few sets of eyes in the peat staring back at me before they went in the envelope.
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- wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
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Anything yet Robert??hi . I wetted a batch of the same Sean kindly sent me at 18.30 but one and quarter hours later no sign of movement ,must be doing something wrong .
I am sitting here feeling what I think a father would be feeling awaiting the birth of his first born

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I initially put the N. guentheri eggs into water at 15c. They had actually been in the water for 4 days before they started to hatch. You might have to wait the same length of time.
With the S. santanae I took some RO water and put it in the container and dropped an ice cube in to bring the temperature down to 10c. The first 4 of those hatched after about 4 hrs, I've left the container to climb on it's own to room temperature and and a few more have hatched today. Róisín's container has had two or three more hatch today so I'm going to leave them in the water until tomorrow.
What did surprise me was how tiny the N. guentheri are, I expected them to be slightly larger than the S. santanae but they are actually about 2 thirds of the size and with the peat background extremely difficult to see. I, very, very gently, used a spoon to ease the peat away from one end so that there is a clear section of the white container with very little peat on it and it makes them much easier to see.
I don't think you will have problems, it'll just take a little time, especially with warmer water. Those initial rains in nature are of a much lower temperature than the ground the eggs are in.
Keeping fingers crossed for you.
Bill.
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- wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
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As Bill mentioned , The fry could be lying on the peat and it would be hard to find them.
Their size is also why you have the debris from your pond prepared in advance as to have a food source in the form of insufuria small enough for them take.
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- wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
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I saw at least eight eyed up eggs in the bag when I checked it before i sent it to you.
The only thing I do different than you did is that I wet the eggs a lower temperature .
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Don't forget, these fry are really going to try out your eyesight something wickedly as well

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First of many I hope Robert.was out for the afternoon and just back in and surprise I have one tiny fry , so just it until tomorrow and vsee what happens , Bill just checked the temp of the water its 18.2 deg c. if it needs to go lower how do I do that
As Bill mentioned they are tiny so there might be another few in there.
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Hatching would be normally very rapid (within 40 to 60 minutes after wetting) if a first wetting was sufficient.
I also would use aged water that had had fish in it (but not adult killifish though)
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What did you feed the lone fry ?
When you wet the peat again have another tub ready with water and moss in it so if any do hatch you can transfer them
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Bar joining the BKA has any one any good source for killifish eggs going to give it a week let the microworms take hold then try hatch some more.
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Unfortunately all my fry have been lost.
I'm always wary of feeding any newly-hatched fish with anything other than infusoria, I'm not saying that's why you lost them, but that's how I always did it. So far ours are still alive and will go onto microworm later this week.
I'll second Eric, dry off the peat and incubate again for a couple of weeks.
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Infursoria is a great first food for the tiny fry of some of he killifish species.
Have you got a planted tank Craig?
If you do you will probably have a culture going already unknowns to yourself.
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